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		<title>Comment on Does Grad School Affect Personality &#8211; Adversely? by Kate Duttro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate Duttro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 07:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve added a lot of good reasons why grad school is such an uphill battle in so many departments, Mr. Personality. Thank you. When I look at the list, I suppose I should be thankful that the phrase, &quot;going postal&quot; hasn&#039;t turned into &quot;going academic.&quot; Or, do you suppose grad students get depressed, rather than angry?

I also agree with your mention of phd students and tenured academics getting disconnected from society outside the walls of the Ivory Tower. But, could you tell me more of what&#039;s in your mind when you say that? Do you mean they can&#039;t help their students find non-academic jobs? Or, is there more to what you&#039;re saying?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve added a lot of good reasons why grad school is such an uphill battle in so many departments, Mr. Personality. Thank you. When I look at the list, I suppose I should be thankful that the phrase, &#8220;going postal&#8221; hasn&#8217;t turned into &#8220;going academic.&#8221; Or, do you suppose grad students get depressed, rather than angry?</p>
<p>I also agree with your mention of phd students and tenured academics getting disconnected from society outside the walls of the Ivory Tower. But, could you tell me more of what&#8217;s in your mind when you say that? Do you mean they can&#8217;t help their students find non-academic jobs? Or, is there more to what you&#8217;re saying?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Does Grad School Affect Personality &#8211; Adversely? by Mr. Personality</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Personality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 03:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, survival of the fittest doesn&#039;t make sense at the PhD level, especially since it can select for those who don&#039;t have better places to go and for those who simply have enough external financial support (e.g. spousal, parental), those who don&#039;t need to be socially motivated, etc, instead of selecting for the best.

I suspect that this isn&#039;t the only cause of stress in grad school: a tough job market and repeated uprooting and isolation from outside community and once&#039;s family and friends from before grad school also add to this.  But as far as treating grad students like colleagues vs. not, I think unfortunately most faculty think of PhD students as *students*, not *colleagues*.  I don&#039;t know of any departments that treats its grad students like colleagues, but I do know one faculty member who treats (all? some?) graduate students as one would treat a colleague/ someone with loads of potential to groom and collaborate with, takes them to conferences, gives them constructive and clear feedback on their work, etc.

The stance at some departments is that graduate students are cheap labor.  Faculty travel to conferences while grad students stay at home.  Faculty in humanities are also often not used to collaboration, so what they call an &#039;apprenticeship&#039; is not what I would call that.

Getting trained to do something which society doesn&#039;t really need (with the exception of a few fields) or rather has too much of already given labor demand probably doesn&#039;t help either.  The fact that you are giving up freedom of geographic mobility and have to be thankful for any job with way over 40 hours a week at 20k to 55k a year that might be anywhere in the country or even the world -- that can be pretty humiliating too.  It probably also doesn&#039;t help that phd students and tenured academics too get disconnected from society outside the walls of the Ivory Tower.  Things can also take years longer than expected, which doesn&#039;t help.  And you realize you&#039;re no longer quite as special as you thought you were before you went in?  And also suddenly advisors can get really picky with your work -- albeit even with the good intention of preparing you for the job market.  Lots of reasons for a potential drop in self-esteem and adverse effect on personality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, survival of the fittest doesn&#8217;t make sense at the PhD level, especially since it can select for those who don&#8217;t have better places to go and for those who simply have enough external financial support (e.g. spousal, parental), those who don&#8217;t need to be socially motivated, etc, instead of selecting for the best.</p>
<p>I suspect that this isn&#8217;t the only cause of stress in grad school: a tough job market and repeated uprooting and isolation from outside community and once&#8217;s family and friends from before grad school also add to this.  But as far as treating grad students like colleagues vs. not, I think unfortunately most faculty think of PhD students as *students*, not *colleagues*.  I don&#8217;t know of any departments that treats its grad students like colleagues, but I do know one faculty member who treats (all? some?) graduate students as one would treat a colleague/ someone with loads of potential to groom and collaborate with, takes them to conferences, gives them constructive and clear feedback on their work, etc.</p>
<p>The stance at some departments is that graduate students are cheap labor.  Faculty travel to conferences while grad students stay at home.  Faculty in humanities are also often not used to collaboration, so what they call an &#8216;apprenticeship&#8217; is not what I would call that.</p>
<p>Getting trained to do something which society doesn&#8217;t really need (with the exception of a few fields) or rather has too much of already given labor demand probably doesn&#8217;t help either.  The fact that you are giving up freedom of geographic mobility and have to be thankful for any job with way over 40 hours a week at 20k to 55k a year that might be anywhere in the country or even the world &#8212; that can be pretty humiliating too.  It probably also doesn&#8217;t help that phd students and tenured academics too get disconnected from society outside the walls of the Ivory Tower.  Things can also take years longer than expected, which doesn&#8217;t help.  And you realize you&#8217;re no longer quite as special as you thought you were before you went in?  And also suddenly advisors can get really picky with your work &#8212; albeit even with the good intention of preparing you for the job market.  Lots of reasons for a potential drop in self-esteem and adverse effect on personality.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Build Your Professional Image When You Attend a Conference by Erica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 20:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I often make it through the networking steps, but then find that it&#039;s difficult to keep up the network once it&#039;s begun, especially with people outside of my daily routine. There are lots of people that I like, get along with, and want to keep in touch with, but very few that actually want to have email conversations deep enough to keep up a working relationship. So, once you&#039;ve made the contact, how do you keep in touch, and help others keep in touch with you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I often make it through the networking steps, but then find that it&#8217;s difficult to keep up the network once it&#8217;s begun, especially with people outside of my daily routine. There are lots of people that I like, get along with, and want to keep in touch with, but very few that actually want to have email conversations deep enough to keep up a working relationship. So, once you&#8217;ve made the contact, how do you keep in touch, and help others keep in touch with you?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Build Your Professional Image When You Attend a Conference by seo</title>
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		<dc:creator>seo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats an interesting article - your blog is really good i keep coming back here all the time keep it up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats an interesting article &#8211; your blog is really good i keep coming back here all the time keep it up!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Build Your Professional Image When You Attend a Conference by Jeannette Samanen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeannette Samanen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 00:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kate

This is terrific advice and very timely for me as I am about to head out to the International Coach Federation Conference.

Keep up the good work!

Jeannette</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kate</p>
<p>This is terrific advice and very timely for me as I am about to head out to the International Coach Federation Conference.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work!</p>
<p>Jeannette</p>
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		<title>Comment on Top 10 Ways to Find Jobs &#8211; Networking STILL Important by admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 21:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Randa, Great points to make about how to use LinkedIn! 

(1) Unfortunately, I see very few LinkedIn profiles in which people have actually listed their skills beyond the resume-like jobs/experience. (And, I&#039;m even guilty of that myself!)

(2) Noticing these linkages with friends and their interests is a great counter to the question I often see, on why we should bother collecting a lot of people as &quot;friends.&quot; It&#039;s a great way to get background on a person before you meet face-to-face, to help establish common ground in a conversation.  --  &quot;It&#039;s really good to meet you, and I noticed that your LinkedIn profile says you&#039;re working on a (whatever it is). I&#039;ve been doing some parallel research and I wanted to ask you about....&quot;

(3) Yes, and those passing opportunities can work both ways! A friend of mine was &quot;found&quot; in LinkedIn by a business acquaintance who was looking for a web designer, but he didn&#039;t know she did that as a sideline until he searched his local LinkedIn profiles for &quot;web designer.&quot; Both searcher and searchee were pleased with the result.

Thanks for the comments - I really liked your extension of the post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randa, Great points to make about how to use LinkedIn! </p>
<p>(1) Unfortunately, I see very few LinkedIn profiles in which people have actually listed their skills beyond the resume-like jobs/experience. (And, I&#8217;m even guilty of that myself!)</p>
<p>(2) Noticing these linkages with friends and their interests is a great counter to the question I often see, on why we should bother collecting a lot of people as &#8220;friends.&#8221; It&#8217;s a great way to get background on a person before you meet face-to-face, to help establish common ground in a conversation.  &#8212;  &#8220;It&#8217;s really good to meet you, and I noticed that your LinkedIn profile says you&#8217;re working on a (whatever it is). I&#8217;ve been doing some parallel research and I wanted to ask you about&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>(3) Yes, and those passing opportunities can work both ways! A friend of mine was &#8220;found&#8221; in LinkedIn by a business acquaintance who was looking for a web designer, but he didn&#8217;t know she did that as a sideline until he searched his local LinkedIn profiles for &#8220;web designer.&#8221; Both searcher and searchee were pleased with the result.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comments &#8211; I really liked your extension of the post.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Top 10 Ways to Find Jobs &#8211; Networking STILL Important by randa</title>
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		<dc:creator>randa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 18:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good to know the numbers show face-to-face contact still overwhelms the virtual application for success in job hunting.  Some scuttle among friends is suggesting online social networking sites offer a few bonuses to the job search. 
(1) On Linked In we actually get to see each others skill/experience list, allowing more complete information about each others skills than we can absorb in a history of conversations.
(2) We can see linkages between friends, shared interests and expand on them. We also see what interests or business areas THEIR friends work in.  These do not always come up in conversations.  This allows us expanded opportunity to ask for introductions to like minded (or like industry) contacts, in a casual manner.
(3) We can access these &#039;resumes&#039; anytime to make a connection with a passing opportunity.
So, I agree the virtual social networking sites can be good supplement to our job search quest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to know the numbers show face-to-face contact still overwhelms the virtual application for success in job hunting.  Some scuttle among friends is suggesting online social networking sites offer a few bonuses to the job search.<br />
(1) On Linked In we actually get to see each others skill/experience list, allowing more complete information about each others skills than we can absorb in a history of conversations.<br />
(2) We can see linkages between friends, shared interests and expand on them. We also see what interests or business areas THEIR friends work in.  These do not always come up in conversations.  This allows us expanded opportunity to ask for introductions to like minded (or like industry) contacts, in a casual manner.<br />
(3) We can access these &#8216;resumes&#8217; anytime to make a connection with a passing opportunity.<br />
So, I agree the virtual social networking sites can be good supplement to our job search quest.</p>
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